[00:00:00] Ikenna: That how we're gonna start. Every time they just do a dance.
[00:00:12] Safrianna: The heck. This is the heck dance , I just made it up.
[00:00:16] Ikenna: It's just now. Wow.
[00:00:17] Safrianna: In this moment. That's on this sleepy morning.
[00:00:20] Ikenna: That's amazing. ,
[00:00:22] Safrianna: welcome to my goofiness that you could not witness when it's audio.
[00:00:26] Ikenna: This is true. Yeah. So just bathe in the glorious nest that is Safi's goofiness.
Yeah. Man, it's been several weeks.
[00:00:36] Safrianna: It's been a time y'all, Yeah. In a, I was gonna say in a good way, but then I remembered Covid and.
[00:00:45] Ikenna: Don't get Covid, .
[00:00:46] Safrianna: That was less than stellar. But
[00:00:48] Ikenna: most people now have gotten covid at least once at this point, and we, it's taken us two and a half years to get it and we finally got it.
Traveling is a thing that can cause covid.
[00:00:59] Safrianna: Yeah, so we went out to Bozeman, Montana and met Susan and Martin fisher who were in our first episode this season, so we have not watched that episode. Go seriously watch it. It's awesome stuff. But we went out there for a training that was on actually embodying all natural nine numbers, so nine natural numbers.
If you're not familiar with that. We're gonna talk about it a lot today cuz we're crazy about it now.
[00:01:30] Ikenna: Yeah, cuz it's So this is the thing because with, it's like an another archetype system, but it we can compare it to Myers Briggs, we can even compare it to horoscope stuff,
[00:01:44] Safrianna: Enneagram,
[00:01:45] Ikenna: Enneagram all of that, those concepts where like people will be like, Oh, if you have this sun sign and moon sign, this is what you'll naturally do.
[00:01:55] Safrianna: This might be how your personality shows up.
[00:01:58] Ikenna: Yeah. And with Body of Nine, it literally uses the body to show how you naturally need connection from others. How you show, how you can show up in the world when you are embracing that natural number. That's like the key because
[00:02:14] Safrianna: Yeah, a lot of the archetype systems, obviously human design and astrology is based off of
birth date and time and things like that. And Myers Briggs, Enneagram, etc are our personality tests. So you take, you take questionnaire. body of nine, there's no . There's questions that they're, that they ask you, but they're really looking at what's underneath all of the nurture, which a lot of the nurture goes up here and forms our personality and our protective parts.
[00:02:44] Ikenna: Yep.
[00:02:45] Safrianna: And we can end up protecting our physical bodies and where we lead from because of that. But underneath all of that, you can still identify. The natural structure of a person. , the natural physical structure.
[00:02:57] Ikenna: Yeah. There are specific moves that they can ask people to do, to test, to see like where their center of gravity is.
It was really cool because they asked cuz at this training, There was a plethora of natural number of nines,
[00:03:12] Safrianna: which was glorious cuz I had, I don't know that I've ever had a fr like a close friend who was a natural number nine. Like I can think back and I definitely think I've known lots of ones.
I've known plenty of twos. I think I've known threes. I've known sevens, I've definitely known fives.
[00:03:32] Ikenna: Yup.
[00:03:32] Safrianna: Probably some sixes, but it's harder to identify afab sixes because of society. Yeah. Causing them to collapse into themselves. But yeah, like I don't think I'd ever had a friend who was a nine like me, and being in a room with that energy that I knew was like me was just wild.
But anyway, Yes. So lots of nines.
[00:03:54] Ikenna: Yeah. So the nines were, but there was, they were showing. They were, they had all of the nines stand in front of the rest of the group, and they were like "Spin in a circle" and all of them spun like in different directions, but they were all leading like from their, like from the.
Between their shoulder blades, like backwards . Instead of with me, I'll like I'll start by going this way. This is going this way.
[00:04:23] Safrianna: This was a mind blowing moment. Yeah. Because, in so many archetype systems I've always been with horoscopes like, ha, horoscopes are cute. Now when you get into charts Yeah.
And you actually break down like what the planet. Mean in the houses and whatnot, Like there can be more resonance there, but like a daily horoscope very rarely fits. Like you all, it's only factory. It's like your, this is your sun side and that's it. Yeah. But even with this natural number nine or this natural number, there being nine.
[00:04:53] Ikenna: Yeah. ,
[00:04:54] Safrianna: that's not very many archetypes yet. Each of them has this sort of superpower.
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[00:05:00] Safrianna: And again, you can go watch the interview with Susan and Martin for more detail and we've got blogs and we've got all kinds of stuff. But, today we wanna really dive into what our experience was.
And for me, I'm a huge skeptic until I can see the proof of something.
And. Which is funny cuz I know anything's possible and that makes sense as a nine not literally are containers for everything that exists. Not in a superior way, not in a we contain the world and we're better than you.
Not at all. It's just that's our job. We're providing a container for all of the other natural numbers to be able to celebrate what they do. And nines are not about force.
[00:05:35] Safrianna: When we were embodying, so that's what this training was about in particular, was again, embodying the numbers and activating because.
We, the numbers basically start at the top of the head and go down to the sacrum.
[00:05:48] Ikenna: Yeah. Based off of the chakras.
[00:05:50] Safrianna: It's very similar to the chakras and each natural number has a chakra that it's associated with. I wanna talk to Susan and Martin, about three being the higher heart chakra. But anyway, a lesser talked about chakra but, so we all have those areas in our body.
[00:06:05] Ikenna: Yep.
[00:06:06] Safrianna: Because those are pretty much, even if you have a physical disability or something and maybe you're missing a limb or have something that is, is formed differently than , maybe the average person or something. You still have this sort of central core of your body.
And we can all. Step into them.
, we can all activate those different points.
So in physically activating those points, , , it was such a drastically different experience between them.
[00:06:34] Ikenna: And that was, and that's the thing too, is it's like the thing that a lot of horoscope things or other archetype systems that can be.
That have like criticism, is that oh, they're so vague. All of us experience this sort of stuff. Even though they say that Pisces has this I can also relate to what the cancer side, like all of these different things can resonate more or less because we're all human and all unique and all different.
I understand that and, but that's the thing about Body of Nine is that. They're saying that you are capable of practicing stepping into the energies of all nine, right? Like you can practice that. That's part of the, that's the reason why we went to the training was to learn what that felt like to go into those natural numbers.
[00:07:20] Safrianna: Oh boy. Does it feel ?
[00:07:21] Ikenna: Does it feel like It's so weird because it's like when you and the thing too is it's like, Sometimes a lot of us like, cuz it can feel very vulnerable to step into your natural number. , I, like for me, my natural number in one, like you, it's from looking at someone for a solid minute.
That's how it's activated. And since I'm autistic and I've avoided eye contact, I'm like, this can't be right. This can't be absolutely not like I. Have been avoiding eye contact most of my life, but there was like an interesting shift in my life where I was connected to a lot of people in like kindergarten, first grade, and then second grade happened and all of a sudden, like social skills seemed to I just started becoming more hyper-focused on like how people were connecting with me.
And lost a lot of ability to connect with others cuz I didn't really know how to and was overanalyzing that all the time. And of course eye contact became like, this is just how society accepts connection as by and for me. I have like in order to hold that eye contact with somebody due to how vulnerable it is, like it can be very overwhelming and very like worrisome that person's not going to accept me.
[00:08:48] Safrianna: And having now stepped into one, I understand you so much better and it. They had us during the training collapse to get back into our own natural number. But it also helped us recognize areas in our life where we may have been moonlighting as another number. , where we maybe got stuck outside of our own natural leadership.
And after we came back from the training, I was recovering from Covid. I'm still recovering from Covid.
[00:09:16] Ikenna: Yep.
[00:09:17] Safrianna: And I got stuck in one for two days somehow and I could feel it. Like I could feel the difference. I could and it, I of course was pitching a fit and I'm like, I want out. I wanna be back in my nine and is awful.
[00:09:34] Ikenna: Cause you're so used to,
[00:09:35] Safrianna: I'm so used to being my nine.
[00:09:37] Ikenna: Yeah, but that's the thing is even though we could not be accessing that number, Superpowers as much all the time. The thing is, we can also, each number has like the superpower side and then also like the shadow side, which is just like our shit we have to work through.
And it's so amazing because like again, all numbers can have these different shadow aspects to them, but there are three specific ones that are For come to the forefront for each number. So it's like the numbers that are located more around the head, the one, the five, the seven, and the five those are all around shame.
Which has been like the center of my therapy forever, , and I just assumed that. What most people dealt with was shame, but it's maybe I've just talked to a lot of fives and sevens in my, in ones in my life, and we just resonate on that. But shame is just because ones fives and sevens deal with shame.
It doesn't mean that the other numbers don't. It's just
[00:10:49] Safrianna: That's the Achilles heel.
[00:10:50] Ikenna: That's the Achilles's heel.
That's Achilles's heel. Yeah.
[00:10:51] Safrianna: And it's the worst for ones. ,
[00:10:54] Ikenna: Shame about shame. Extra meta. And then threes, sixes and nines are fear.
[00:11:03] Safrianna: Which is really funny because if you go back and listen to our our podcast about codependency
I'm, I talk about how it was coming from a place of fear. And I think you talk about it coming how from more shame and like how people perceive you and whatnot.
[00:11:16] Ikenna: Yep.
[00:11:17] Safrianna: And this was before we even went to this training and learned all this extra stuff
[00:11:21] Ikenna: Yeah. Before we even met Susan and Martin and knew that was a thing.
[00:11:24] Safrianna: Yeah. So then the third set the body, which is two fours and eights and those are disappointment. Disappointment, Yeah. Yeah. And that's been so interesting because my partner Justin, is a two and disappointment is his thing that like he sometimes feels ashamed or afraid, but what gets him stuck the longest I notice is the disappointment.
[00:11:46] Ikenna: Yeah. The Achilles heel. Like you can't move past it as quickly because that's the thing you get stuck on. Yeah. And that was just really interesting because it's even though I wasn't accessing the superpower aspect of one, of like connecting with people through eye contact, it's I still was accessing, I still access the shadow part of
[00:12:08] Safrianna: Right.
[00:12:08] Ikenna: My natural number constantly .
[00:12:10] Safrianna: Yeah. And Susan and Martin don't focus on the shadow aspects, but of course, us being us, like we're very interested in the shadow side of things and yeah. So when I was stuck in one for two days, it definitely it helped me understand your perspective of life more.
And in that way Be closer to you and more vulnerable. But it also experiencing that level of pain, just like internal pain about myself, like I've been there in my life, of course, but I was more aware of. The nuances of it this time.
.
[00:12:47] Safrianna: And so yeah, I thought it would be fun if we just run through what the different numbers felt like for us at the training.
[00:12:54] Ikenna: Oh yeah. Yeah.
[00:12:55] Safrianna: So for me, one was really hard to activate because it is I was overextending my neck and we're not gonna teach people here how to do it cause that's not our job. But the eye contact was so vulnerable for me. .
[00:13:09] Ikenna: They told me to take off my glasses. Yeah. Which was weird cuz I was
[00:13:13] Safrianna: then you were like blind.
[00:13:14] Ikenna: Blind. But that was still a level of vulnerability to look at people. Sorry, I totally, Did you have more to say about one?
[00:13:21] Safrianna: It was hard to activate at first and it's probably the reason I have covid now. Cause we were all up in each,
[00:13:28] Ikenna: we were all up in each others' spaces ,
[00:13:30] Safrianna: but. It's all good. I have no regrets.
But yeah, one just felt so open, so raw, so vulnerable and receptive. And there's this aspect, like it was really that you can't receive someone else unless you're open to being received.
[00:13:49] Ikenna: Yep.
[00:13:50] Safrianna: Was what I took away from it. Yep. Oh, are you feeling personally attacked? No.
Sorry, you didn't mean to call out that truth.
[00:13:56] Ikenna: No. Like that's, it's one of those things where it's like it was really intense because we started with one, like we went through in dif, not the order one through nine, but we started with one and I was paired with Susan initially and.
She's a natural number six. And she said to us before that she is like naturally attracted to ones. Like she just really loves their energy. . And she apparently, I heard, I don't remember exactly like the natural number two told me this later. I don't know if she was talking about Susan or someone else, but basically like people were telling me, like when they connected with me, they.
Recognize that this is the first time that I was like really seen in my oneness. . And that was like really powerful for them. And they wanted me to know like how amazing that was. And it was just after being told like how too much I am for a lot of things. And the shame that's related to that I've shut down the oneness a lot. So it's Hearing that from people and experiencing that just made it really amazing to be able to do that. But it's it's weird to like it when you're in the bubble of natural number talk. It's Hi, I'm a national number one. And they're like, Oh, you need the, the eye contact.
Cool. .
[00:15:21] Safrianna: And that's, I actually have been. Saying it to people who don't know what body of nine is. Yeah. Hey, just so you know when I'm communicating, if I'm not necessarily making eye contact with you or my face seems very passive, that actually means I'm paying attention. Yeah. Cause I am trying to stare in your eyes and make facial expressions.
Unfortunately that means I'm more in my head than I am listening to you. And that's really hard as a therapist cuz like clients want. Receptivity. It's so hard to balance friendship.
[00:15:55] Ikenna: It's so hard to balance the therapist's role and also be your authentic self.
[00:16:01] Safrianna: . Yep. Two. , two is hard for me as well actually, initially.
Two was.
[00:16:06] Ikenna: So two, we had this way of testing your twoness by dancing .
[00:16:11] Safrianna: Which was, I keep telling Justin, I'm like, When we're feeling better, I'm gonna test your two . You better be ready. And he is like, What does that mean? I'm like, We're gonna dance together. And he's oh,
[00:16:20] Ikenna: yeah. But the cool thing is it's like the two that they had
come up. She was like, I don't, I'm bad at following or leading or whatever. And they're like, Just embrace your two. And then like they flowed through the whole floor. And her, like her footwork was flawless. She was just, cuz it was, it's all in eye contact with two.
[00:16:41] Safrianna: Yeah. Twos make connections pretty interesting.
[00:16:43] Ikenna: Eye contact and like accessing your two, which is like near the diaphragm.
[00:16:46] Safrianna: Yeah, it's down here. It was hard. So what's really cool about working with Susan and Martin and I hope over time will be cool about working with the two of us in different capacities is because they're different natural numbers.
They show things in a different way. , even though they have been doing this work with each other for 20 years. Yep. And. So sometimes Susan would show away that would land in my body and sometimes Martin would show away. That would land in my body, and sometimes I would make up my own version.
Like me getting into nine was totally different than how they were teaching it, but they said that made sense
[00:17:18] Ikenna: because they're not nines and you're nine.
[00:17:21] Safrianna: But yeah, so two for me, once I got into it was fine. Felt very connected and the world around you seems to melt away. Just focused on person in front of you.
[00:17:33] Ikenna: Yeah. Going from one to two is interesting because when you lock eye contact for a solid minute, basically, even though I wasn't wearing my glasses, like it was like the rest of the world became extra fuzzy and the only thing that had clarity was like, You know how like light will, like create like a sparkle in someone's eye sort of thing?
, I extra noticed that, but then ev even their face was very fuzzy. But then when I went to two, it's it's that fuzziness went away only on their face though. So like their whole face was now connecting with me. But there were still fuzziness or like from the peripherals
But. I still since it was, So that was interesting too, to be like, one is like very eye centric, two is still also eye centric, but it like, and this of course is just my experience but it went to Opening up a little bit in terms of the fo like the connection felt more like all of the face
[00:18:38] Safrianna: and twos are mirrors and they're the best at anticipating other people's needs.
And being two, I could feel that it's like there was a, an awareness of the other person that I was connected to and what the fullness of them was doing. Cause I wasn't worried about all this out here, which normally. And that's a five thing too. Fives are 360 awareness. Nines. Nines are like 360 and then some all the multi, multi,
[00:19:06] Ikenna: but still
But for for the two, it was interesting because it was like when you're in a room with multiple people, there still can be that overwhelm of the connection. and trying to anticipate multiple people's needs if you are scattered, right? If you are focusing on like only one person at a time, then you can just like, But if it's like a group setting where everyone's talking about like the same thing, like you can get overwhelmed cuz you're like, you can't really anticipate what's going on as well. Yeah. So when we were doing like one on one work with each other and in two, that was really cool. But I could feel myself. In five and in nine I was overwhelmed by all of the things. But like with two I was overwhelmed only when it was not one on one, like right with five and nine I could be one on one.
And also aware of all of the other things and so been, be distracted.
[00:19:58] Safrianna: I'm trying so hard not to covid cough right now. Bear with me .
So three was like pure joy.
[00:20:07] Ikenna: Like intense smiling.
[00:20:09] Safrianna: Yes. Cuz three are big smilers and uhhuh eye contact and yeah. Like it was not as hard for me to physically
[00:20:19] Ikenna: Yeah. Just like doing that intense smile like makes me wanna makes me extra happy.
[00:20:23] Safrianna: Yeah. Threes are batteries. I could feel that. That energy.
[00:20:26] Ikenna: Yeah. Cause we didn't have all nine numbers the whole weekend
[00:20:29] Safrianna: and then there were a couple locals that came in to even things out.
[00:20:33] Ikenna: Yeah. So we didn't have a four or three. , but I think we had everyone else, right?
[00:20:40] Safrianna: 1, 2, 5, 5, 6. 6, 6, 7, 8.
Eight and nine. Nine. Yep. So we were only missing the threes and fours. So we got to meet one four though. We're pretty sure we have a four in our life. And then we got to meet several threes. I do suspect I've known threes in my life. . I think we've probably all encountered all nine numbers in our life, in school or
[00:21:02] Ikenna: Yeah.
But we might not have,
[00:21:04] Safrianna: like they might have been in their power, so it's hard to assess sometimes. And obviously that's why Susan and Martin were the experts, but yeah. So three, three was fun to activate. Yeah. Four is emotion. Awareness dropping. So four, you drop into the sacral and expand your awareness of your emotions
[00:21:26] Ikenna: I like how we're just like three is fun onto four
[00:21:30] Safrianna: Do you have more to say about three?
[00:21:31] Ikenna: It was just, it was yeah, I mean it was very energizing. It was very, like they say that once you learn how to access the numbers if you want like motivation, if you want that battery I wouldn't say like emotional battery, just to get a job done or just to move forward thing.
[00:21:49] Safrianna: They're detail oriented. Threes are because it's the nine. The six. The three, Yeah. And I'm probably doing those arm movements wrong here cuz I don't wanna bob the mic.
[00:22:01] Ikenna: But nine is like all, everything. Six is a little more focused and then three is
[00:22:06] Safrianna: the six drives things forward.
[00:22:07] Ikenna: Yeah. So six more focus,
[00:22:09] Safrianna: threes get into the minutia of things.
[00:22:13] Ikenna: Yeah. So it's cool because it's when you learn how to access the numbers and you're like, and you know what aspects of the superpower you enjoy, you can practice accessing those numbers for Yeah. Periods of time to be able to not be as held back by or, because if you're in your natural number all the time, that's awesome.
But it makes more sense if you're in a group. The other nine numbers, right? Cuz then all of the jobs are fulfilled. But if you need to moonlight as another natural
[00:22:44] Safrianna: I moonlighted as a seven for most of my life, I think.
[00:22:48] Ikenna: Yeah. But yeah, so three was just like, just really. I don't know, just I did feel extra like laser focused and just adrenaline almost.
[00:22:58] Safrianna: Yeah I remember when the threes came in the room. Kenna had been kinda lagging, , was doing a little snoozy. And the threes walked in the room and we activated three, and Kenna was like, All right, I'm ready. I'm taking notes, I'm doing this. I was like, Wow. Okay. So three is your number for hey, it's time to do chores.
[00:23:19] Ikenna: Oh God. Yeah.
[00:23:20] Safrianna: Get into your three. Yeah. So yeah, four was the dropping into emotions. It's very connected. Spiritually, I feel like .
[00:23:29] Ikenna: And it's interesting cuz four does connect with eye contact, but they also connect with themselves when they close their eyes. Yeah. So that's, it's a very,
[00:23:38] Safrianna: they teach us to tune inward to interocept
[00:23:40] Ikenna: . . But it's also just you feel like they're your best friends when they do connect with you. Super cool. But it also can cause issues when there's what was it like if they connect in a way that. They'll connect with you and if they like look on to like connect with someone else, like you feel like you're disconnected from them.
[00:23:57] Safrianna: It's the bubble. The bubble. So fours can velop you in this beautiful bubble of energy and acceptance. And when they remove that bubble, you feel it. , you feel the withdrawal. And that can be really hard for people sometimes.
[00:24:10] Ikenna: Yeah. And then fives are.
[00:24:15] Safrianna: They're fixers, they're helpers, they're aware.
, they have that 360 awareness. It's really cool to watch Martin as a five, like he could really read the room , and he could have that awareness of how everyone in the room was responding to different,
[00:24:33] Ikenna: and he would check in with people all the time. If he, if.
Felt like something could have landed with me in a and could have kicked in with my shame. Something.
[00:24:43] Safrianna: He was so cute, he kept coming over and he is you're one is a gift and you're strong and you've got this. It was really sweet. Yeah, he, Whereas with me, he'd be like, All right.
You need to soften. All right. There it is. And that would be all the feedback I needed. Yeah. . Cause we could tell when I got it, it was really interesting to, to have someone that is Yeah. In that power of being able to acknowledge how they can help without overstepping.
[00:25:08] Ikenna: I'm trying to remember.
Cause I remember in the people kept getting like the wording. Like wrong in terms of like how they explained fives. And he would be like it's like up here. Because I don't know if people would accidentally would explain something of being like here, like in the,
[00:25:26] Safrianna: Yeah. The back of the head.
[00:25:27] Ikenna: Yeah, that's how it's related to in, in the, with, related to chakras. But like he was, he kept like bringing us back and being like but the awareness is like all around here.
[00:25:36] Safrianna: So he called it, I think he calls it his entity. Okay. So he's not thinking he's accessing his entity, right? This full awareness that's beyond, excuse me, the like, human ego essentially is what I got from that. Martin, if we're explaining that wrong and you listed this later, feel free to correct us . But yeah, so five. Pull down that source energy or that cosmic knowing or however they relate to it.
God, again, lots of different terms, but I also, I found it very easy to get into five. , very easy to get into. Five. I bet I'm more in five when I'm a therapist.
[00:26:15] Ikenna: Yeah. Five is can come across as more cynical at times. Fives are sometimes the ones that like, Martin's one of the few fives that.
Exist in the body of nine situation because, but he said there were a couple fives identified in some of the projects that we've worked on. Whether they're running with it or not is a whole other story. But he was saying that he was cynical about it at first and like it took him a while to get into, and that's just how fives do.
Like they have. Oh, it has to do with like alignment. Like things have to be in congruence. That's the biggest thing. If it's incongruent, then there's a lot of like pushback. So you have to gather more information and learn more about it. And and that's the thing too, is like
[00:27:07] Safrianna: fives are great information gatherers.
[00:27:09] Ikenna: Yeah. So that's, I definitely can moonlight as a five too in terms of information gathering. And it again, like it's hard to like it's hard to go into yeah, we are these natural numbers, but we can access these other numbers. But it's just One of those ways you can understand other people more too.
[00:27:30] Safrianna: . Yeah. Knowing other people's number really does help you relate to them in a different way and meet their needs in a different way.
[00:27:36] Ikenna: , because the way that you're gonna move out of your fear is going to be different than how I move out of my shame. But yeah, fives are just I would, I like to think of them as more, like I felt more analytical.
In, in five. But yeah.
And then six is The driver. .
[00:27:53] Safrianna: Yeah. Chest forward. Chest forward.
[00:27:56] Ikenna: I hate it. .
[00:27:58] Safrianna: I like six. Six is something that I like. Thinking back, I naturally would access if I was like walking alone down a street. Yes. Like I don't mess with me. .
[00:28:10] Ikenna: Or when you are trying to move through a crowd and you aren't like you're making yourself smaller.
By like skinnier I guess because like you, you like thrust your chest back and then put your arms behind your back.
[00:28:26] Safrianna: That's more of a nine.
[00:28:27] Ikenna: That's more of a nine. Okay.
[00:28:28] Safrianna: Yeah, no, that, cuz that's me collapsing into my center.
[00:28:31] Ikenna: Gotcha.
[00:28:32] Safrianna: Cause when I do that, I make my shoulders a little bit smaller versus when I'm
[00:28:37] Ikenna: Ah, gotcha.
[00:28:39] Safrianna: So yeah, six. It's six was one of the most hilarious parts of the weekend, I feel like, cuz we had an 11 year old boy who came in with his mom to the training and
[00:28:53] Ikenna: he's a nine.
[00:28:53] Safrianna: He's a nine. So sweet,
[00:28:55] Ikenna: So cute.
[00:28:56] Safrianna: But Susan Natural number six starts talking about six cleavage. And this poor child is just, Oh my God.
We're talking about boobs, . Oh no.
[00:29:10] Ikenna: Yeah. Cause apparently sixes have a specific looking
[00:29:13] Safrianna: sixes and nines have very distinct cleavage which, because of the,
[00:29:17] Ikenna: how broad their chest
[00:29:18] Safrianna: breadth of the chest and the shoulders. Yeah. But yeah, six for me was very easy. Aside from the, actually getting perfectly in the posture, cuz my shoulder's always wanna roll back.
Yeah. But once I was there I enjoyed being in six and I felt the power of it.
[00:29:33] Ikenna: I feel like if I had top surgery , I would be like down with the six-ness
[00:29:40] Safrianna: Yikes. Oh man. .
[00:29:42] Ikenna: Because I've always and that's the thing, like I'm I am glad that I'm a natural number one cuz they don't. Like the throwing back the chest is not a thing that Yeah,
[00:29:52] Safrianna: it's just to do neck. Necky boy.
[00:29:54] Ikenna: Necky boy. And with what?
[00:29:55] Safrianna: That neck? Neck? That neck. Neck. Heck neck.
[00:30:00] Ikenna: Heck neck.
Stickers coming out soon,
[00:30:02] Safrianna: heckin Necky boy. It's just a dinosaur with glasses that looks like you ,
[00:30:08] Ikenna: or just, it will say one Necky boy and the, It's just a, the number one and the one the, It's
[00:30:15] Safrianna: the one is the neck. Yeah. Of the body of the, Yeah. There you go. We got it. Anyway, , shall we move on to seven?
[00:30:24] Ikenna: Sure. . But yeah I just, I feel like we're like cramming through them right now, oh, we're probably gonna do a second podcast just talking about our experience. Indeed. Indeed. So six was but yes, six definitely had that drive in focus. I remember like when we accessed the six and we were lollygagging a tiny bit, like I.
I was starting to feel antsy what are we doing next? ? What are we gonna, And I remember and like when I was in numbers that had more awareness of what was going around in the room, I would witness. Susan, who's in national number six, get antsy and Martin be like, It's okay. Let them have a little more time.
And then Susan be like, But I wanna do this. And so that was, And so accessing six, like I felt the wanting to push forward , the wanting to get everyone on the same page.
[00:31:12] Safrianna: It's a rallying, Sixes are a rallying force. They're great leaders and
[00:31:17] Ikenna: yeah, it's amazing.
[00:31:18] Safrianna: It's awesome.
[00:31:19] Ikenna: So yeah, it's so great that Susan's a six cuz it's like definitely helps drive the force forward.
Yeah. Sevens what was so cute was that one of the Oh, there was another five at the Yeah. At the training and she brought her. Child who's a toddler
[00:31:35] Safrianna: and a seven.
[00:31:36] Ikenna: And a seven. The child was a seven. And so it was so cute to witness that. Just cuz like children as toddlers are basically like, so in like their purest form of I'm just gonna be my authentic self cause I don't know anything else to be like I am not, and we can. I can go down a path of fricking the concept of id ego and super ego. Oh boy, how Freud, Yeah. Like how Id is like the most savage concept and then but we gain more awareness of how to fit in with society, with our ego and super ego. I'm like, no, Like the id is still a beautiful thing to figure out what your needs are and kids have that and it's so cute.
Just to witness how a seven existed as a child. And then to also witness the sevens who were adults that had a lot of nurture on top of the seven-ness. This Cause all of them re were different.
[00:32:32] Safrianna: Yeah. For me, when I went into seven there was. That similar cosmic awareness that I have as a nine.
. So it felt very comfortable.
[00:32:41] Ikenna: It felt very floaty.
[00:32:43] Safrianna: Yes. , I think I described being in seven as grass in the wind in my notebook because I did, I, there was this sort of ethereal, wobbly quality to it. And yeah, I, but it felt good. Yeah. And it. Hopeful and yeah. So a lot of sevens right now are feeling urgency, and I asked all of the sevens in the room if they were feeling that sense of urgency about just the world right now.
And that was like a universal component. They're aware of where we're going. A lot of sevens do have a very natural ability to be pre cognizant Yeah. Of things yeah, I liked being in seven. I feel like I've moonlighted a seven for a lot of my life. I suspect I have family members, a family member who is a seven but have not confirmed.
So yeah, will not share that. Cause you don't wanna misidentify someone's number. That's why you wanna go to the expert because. Yep. Misidentifying people can, They shared a story. Susan shared a story about her mom being misidentified as an eight, I'm wanting to say. And then later they figured out she was a one and it like changed everything.
And then they were like, Oh, that makes so much sense. And the mom was able to be more authentic after that. Eight.
[00:33:59] Ikenna: Yep.
[00:33:59] Safrianna: Eight was hard.
[00:34:01] Ikenna: Eight felt. So eight took me out of my head, which felt weird, , but felt like nice. Like it's I feel like I access eight when I do workouts. Makes sense.
Cause it, it puts you in your body. Eight.
[00:34:17] Safrianna: Eight is the most body based number.
[00:34:19] Ikenna: Yeah. And so they were teaching us how to access that and it was, Once you accessed it, I just felt heavier. Like I just, like I felt the weight of my feet and legs. I could feel the chair underneath me. Like I was so much more aware of the tactile sensations. Was interesting
[00:34:38] Safrianna: for me. That was the one number that I really felt my body pain in as somebody with chronic pain. Because
[00:34:44] Ikenna: You were like, Get me out of here.
[00:34:46] Safrianna: Yeah, no, literally like the pushing. So there was a lot of pushing over the weekend literal physical pushing cuz we would activate the number and get into their sort of power pose and then Susan and Martin would come around and push on us.
And I was totally fine, even though I have all these pressure points on my body with my fibro until we did eight. And eight. I was like, Oh, that sucks, and I could root and feel grounded and all the other beautiful things that eight offers. But that body awareness was like, Oh, okay. This is, these are all the ways that I'm aching.
. So I'm curious as my physical health repairs, cuz that's the journey I'm personally on right now. If getting into eight will be easier to access.
[00:35:32] Ikenna: Yep. That would be cool.
[00:35:34] Safrianna: But yeah eights are awesome people like, they're, they are so friendly and we got, we get to hang out with two eights over the weekend.
And just, they, they do hold that space and they feel the sort of ripple of energy that
[00:35:51] Ikenna: two eights?
[00:35:52] Safrianna: There were two eights. I only re remember one was sitting, I we're not using names. Yeah. One was sitting two seats away from me and one is Susan and one of Susan and Martin's children.
[00:36:03] Ikenna: Oh, they weren't there the whole time. That's why I'm forgetting . I'm only like going based off of the people who are there all the whole time.
[00:36:08] Safrianna: Yeah. But yeah, they're like very down to earth and funny and Yeah. Have such charm and Yeah. And really can teach us. To be in the moment. . So then nine.
Nine. How was nine for you?
[00:36:20] Ikenna: It was so hard. It was so hard. It was so funny because we're both like, it was so hard to get into the other person's number. The person's number. Yeah, I had I'm not used to with ones like I'm not used to shoving my shoulders back that far and like deep into my back.
But once I got into it's I thought my ADHD was bad as a one, but yeah,
[00:36:40] Safrianna: you came up to me and you were like, No wonder you have adhd. .
[00:36:42] Ikenna: No wonder your ADHD is like so bad. Bad. Cause it's like the aware, like it, so it's so with one, like when I'm accessing it, like the focus is on like the specific sparkle in the eye sort of thing.
Twos is the face with nine. It's like the whole, the peripherals became also in info. Everything was in focus. You know how they have it's like when a camera. Is like really focused in on a thing and like everything else is completely out of focus. . then all of a sudden they change the focus of the camera where everything becomes in focus and you're like, Oh cool.
Those there's a tree there and there's a lamp post way back there and there's a bird flying over there and like you're just like noticing all of these things. It's all of a sudden everything's in focus and it's just awesome. But also, holy shit so much.
[00:37:37] Safrianna: So much. Yeah. And. I'm so used to that full awareness that when you take it away from me, I don't know what to do.
There's, it's like the reduction of things to focus on is almost overwhelming. Like, where did it all go?
[00:37:53] Ikenna: Yeah. It's if you tell someone if. If someone's lived with anxiety their whole life and one day they wake up and they don't have the anxiety, then they get anxious over the fact that they don't have anxiety over a certain thing.
[00:38:05] Safrianna: Oh God, what changed? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, that was a quick run through of our experience in activating each number and like I said, I'm sure we're probably gonna record another episode about just the weekend and
[00:38:17] Ikenna: Yeah. And we hope to some of the people that we are going to be inviting, and interviewing.
Either were they were either identified through Susan and Martin didn't go to the training but like we were a part of the book Raising Wild Ones where Susan wrote a chapter and
[00:38:36] Safrianna: identified almost all of the authors. I think there might have been one who Yeah. Passed. But yeah.
[00:38:41] Ikenna: So all, yeah, so identified the authors. So we're, we are also inviting the raising Wild one authors to do the podcast so like we'll be talking,
[00:38:50] Safrianna: we may ask them to talk about their experience too, cuz we're, again, we're like
[00:38:54] Ikenna: we're nerding out about it.
[00:38:55] Safrianna: Coocoo for Cocoa puffs about Body of Nine right now,
[00:38:59] Ikenna: Wow.
[00:39:00] Safrianna: It's just fun. Like it is and it's beyond fun. It's illuminating. It's. Expanding as a nine I like to be able to organize things because I that's why we both, everything everywhere, all at once. The most nine movie every, Yeah.
[00:39:16] Ikenna: If you ever wanna understand the complexity of nines, just watch everything everywhere, all at once.
[00:39:23] Safrianna: Yep. And you'll understand. Yeah. But the experience has really expanded my view of people and even though I can't identify people yet, because that's a, that is a long process to really truly be able to learn.
[00:39:38] Ikenna: There's still a level of curiosity.
There's a level of curiosity that allows us to be like, Oh, I'm like, If you're not connecting with them, in your natural number?
If it feels like there's resistance or if there feels like they might not be. I don't know, like it just, it me being able to connect with other people, like seeing them in their natural numbers and witnessing them, just accept who they are. Allows me to be like, Okay they're not.
Not looking at, they're not looking at me. Not because they hate me, the shame. But they don't need to look at me to feel the connection.
[00:40:19] Safrianna: But you can still advocate
[00:40:20] Ikenna: and I can still ask for it. Yeah. If I'm like, I wanna feel more connected to you can we like look at each other while we're talking, thing.
And that's hard. Yeah. That's so hard. But
[00:40:29] Safrianna: I'm. In very close relationship with two connectors as a not connector. So I make a lot of eye contact cuz I'm very used to it, . But yeah. We'll talk more about this cuz there's so much hecking stuff to talk about.
[00:40:45] Ikenna: So much hecking stuff. And if you wanna learn more about it, of course go to the Body of Nine website. I think they also have a YouTube channel they do that shares playlists of like pop artists, like of musicians doing
[00:41:00] Safrianna: Bruno Mars is the one.
[00:41:01] Ikenna: Yeah. Bruno Mars is the one like you can like, That's so cool. Like they'll be able to witness like how people move their bodies and they're like, This is
[00:41:08] Safrianna: Paul McCartney's a nine.
[00:41:09] Ikenna: Yeah. Paul McCartney's a nine. And it's just, you get to witness how they sit in their bodies, but also like their worldview sometimes comes out in those those moments and you're like, Oh, . That's interesting how that lines up. But yeah, we're just nerding out about it and if you want to nerd out about it, With us, you can come to our Facebook,
[00:41:29] Safrianna: come to our Discord.
Yep. I'd prefer you come to our discord, if I'm perfectly honest, cuz I'm there more.
[00:41:34] Ikenna: We're, yeah, we're on discord all the time.
[00:41:35] Safrianna: All the time.
That's the best way to get access to us. If you're like, these are cool people and I actually wanna hang out with them and ask them questions and get to know them.
Discord is the answer.
[00:41:45] Ikenna: Yeah. We completely spoop-ified our discord because it's October. Yeah, when we're recording this, hopefully I get this out.
